Comments on: FailedMessiah In The Forward http://failedmessiah.wordpress.com/2006/03/30/failedmessiah-in-the-forward/ “Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented.” – Elie Weisel. • “The seal of G-d is Truth.” – Rabbi Hanina, Bab. Talmud San. 64a. Tue, 02 Oct 2007 16:10:30 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: Dameocrat http://failedmessiah.wordpress.com/2006/03/30/failedmessiah-in-the-forward/#comment-7164 Dameocrat Sun, 02 Apr 2006 15:58:54 +0000 http://failedmessiah.wordpress.com/2006/03/30/failedmessiah-in-the-forward/#comment-7164 So if Jews are "just now" allowed in the salvation fold all is ok? What about everyone else? Remember 90% of the world is not evangelical. So if Jews are “just now” allowed in the salvation fold all is ok? What about everyone else? Remember 90% of the world is not evangelical.

]]> By: Paul Freedman http://failedmessiah.wordpress.com/2006/03/30/failedmessiah-in-the-forward/#comment-7163 Paul Freedman Sat, 01 Apr 2006 17:59:49 +0000 http://failedmessiah.wordpress.com/2006/03/30/failedmessiah-in-the-forward/#comment-7163 There are divisions in pre-Millenium Christianity: one major branch of Christian Zionism explicitly teaches that Jews will not have to convert or be um, purified, at end times, and that their Covenant is Eternal. Perhaps Jesus will have reign over the gentiles and the Rebbe for the Children of Israel. There are divisions in pre-Millenium Christianity: one major branch of Christian Zionism explicitly teaches that Jews will not have to convert or be um, purified, at end times, and that their Covenant is Eternal. Perhaps Jesus will have reign over the gentiles and the Rebbe for the Children of Israel.

]]> By: Dameocrat http://failedmessiah.wordpress.com/2006/03/30/failedmessiah-in-the-forward/#comment-7162 Dameocrat Sat, 01 Apr 2006 05:06:43 +0000 http://failedmessiah.wordpress.com/2006/03/30/failedmessiah-in-the-forward/#comment-7162 You might also not that Klinghoffer works for the "Discovery Institute." This is a Fundamentalist Christian organization with the goal of promoting creation science. It was started by Tim Lahaye of "Left Behind" rapture fame. This is the most aggregious example of the end justifying the means I can think of since the rapture plan for Jews, and everyone else aside from Christians is a a rather nasty one. It is no surprise he promotes Lapid. I just view them as being garden variety "religious right!" personally. I don't have a problem with Matisyahu's quest for fame, though I am into his music. You might also not that Klinghoffer works for the “Discovery Institute.” This is a Fundamentalist Christian organization with the goal of promoting creation science. It was started by Tim Lahaye of “Left Behind” rapture fame. This is the most aggregious example of the end justifying the means I can think of since the rapture plan for Jews, and everyone else aside from Christians is a a rather nasty one. It is no surprise he promotes Lapid. I just view them as being garden variety “religious right!” personally. I don’t have a problem with Matisyahu’s quest for fame, though I am into his music.

]]> By: brian kresge http://failedmessiah.wordpress.com/2006/03/30/failedmessiah-in-the-forward/#comment-7161 brian kresge Fri, 31 Mar 2006 13:13:52 +0000 http://failedmessiah.wordpress.com/2006/03/30/failedmessiah-in-the-forward/#comment-7161 I've never been a big fan of Rabbi Lapin, but then again, my party affiliation starts with a capital "D," and I spend most of the year engaged in a personal war on Christmas... My concern is and has always been that guys like Lapin (and his connection to Abramoff) fit the nefarious Protocols prototype a little more than the rest of the Jewish community should be comfortable with. <a href="http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2002728644_lapin09m.html" rel="nofollow">Here's a tidbit from the Seattle Times</a> with a timeless quote from Medved, too, concerning Abramoff-through-Lapin. Are we really making good on the nation of priests dealio, however, when the appeal is largely based on the kaballah fad? If anything, Mattisyahu with his mediocre tzitzit-dangling sideshow isn't going to bring the whole world towards Noachide observance...it's reducing Judaism to a second-rate exercise in pandering to pop vanity, Mattisyahu's possibly austere motivations notwithstanding. Kudos on the reference by Klinghoffer, however misinformed he may be. It's no doubt a sign that what you're doing has value. I’ve never been a big fan of Rabbi Lapin, but then again, my party affiliation starts with a capital “D,” and I spend most of the year engaged in a personal war on Christmas…

My concern is and has always been that guys like Lapin (and his connection to Abramoff) fit the nefarious Protocols prototype a little more than the rest of the Jewish community should be comfortable with. Here’s a tidbit from the Seattle Times with a timeless quote from Medved, too, concerning Abramoff-through-Lapin.

Are we really making good on the nation of priests dealio, however, when the appeal is largely based on the kaballah fad? If anything, Mattisyahu with his mediocre tzitzit-dangling sideshow isn’t going to bring the whole world towards Noachide observance…it’s reducing Judaism to a second-rate exercise in pandering to pop vanity, Mattisyahu’s possibly austere motivations notwithstanding.

Kudos on the reference by Klinghoffer, however misinformed he may be. It’s no doubt a sign that what you’re doing has value.

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