Chabad Minority Tries To Force Interpretation Of Jewish Law In Elkana

Ynet reports:

Attorney Motti Mintzer, representative of local religious council and a resident of Elkana, told Ynet: “There is mikveh in Elkana since it was established. We moved to the permanent community and decided to build a new mikveh, according to the instructions of the local rabbi, and he ruled according to rulings of outstanding rabbis throughout the generations.”

“The local hassidim from Chabad are from a messianic cult and want to force the community to build the mikveh according to their specifications,” he said.

In response to Chabad’s claims that the religious council does not consider them part of the Orthodox Judaism, Mintzer said: “We don’t claim, we never did and we never will. Obviously they are kosher Jews, until they begin acting in a compulsive way, all the while refuting the authority of the community rabbi.”

Rabbi Yehuda Stern of Elkana commented: “I have ruled according to our custom on the mikveh issue. We are not a Chabad community and my ruling followed the rulings of outstanding rabbis throughout the generations.”

Chabad seeks to dictate halakha so that its rejected minority view is forced on the majority. This scenario repeats itself often. Why? Because Chabad theology is clear: We are right, everyone else is wrong. Majority rule in halakha or anything else is overridden by what can only be termed Chabad arrogance.

But soon this won’t matter. Chabad is a rapidly growing amalgam of born-hasidim, ba’alei teshuva and hangers-on. Soon, counting the hangers-on, it will surpass mainstream Orthodoxy in numbers. And when it does, mikvaot will follow Chabad opinion, as will schechita, sofrut, and just about everything else. And when that happens, the idea of a second coming will be firmly rooted as part of Jewish tradition.

As I have written previously, the probability is great that your grandchildren’s children will await the coming of a messiah named Mendel Schneerson, and will do so believing this to be a normative belief with roots stretching back to Moses.

And when that happens, there is a list of graves you’ll want to spit on. Far better to spit on these individuals while they are still among us. If you do not know how to find them, pick up a copy of the Jewish Observer and spit at random.

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17 responses to “Chabad Minority Tries To Force Interpretation Of Jewish Law In Elkana

  1. Ma. Rabbi

    You are really off the wall.By the way, when they built the womens mikvah in Crown heights which has several mikvahs in one building. The rebbe said to construct one Mikvah according the NON chabad opinion so as to accomodate the NON Lubavitcher women living in Crown Heights.Lubavitch does not force anyone to use a Lubavitcher mikvah although it has many advantages over the standard one.

  2. Yochanan Lavie

    “Soon, counting the hangers-on, it will surpass mainstream Orthodoxy in numbers. And when it does, mikvaot will follow Chabad opinion, as will schechita, sofrut, and just about everything else. And when that happens, the idea of a second coming will be firmly rooted as part of Jewish tradition.”

    That is my fear. If someone wants to follow Chabad, fine for that person. But I am afraid that they have an agenda to take over Orthodoxy, so that Chabad and its “hangers on” become the ONLY orthodoxy. Then, what is left for the rest of us?

    “The rebbe said to construct one Mikvah according the NON chabad opinion so as to accomodate the NON Lubavitcher women living in Crown Heights.Lubavitch does not force anyone to use a Lubavitcher mikvah…”

    That is to the rebbe’s credit, but would his contemporary followers do the same on their own?

  3. Really? So the the entire article is false? Please.

    This same scenario has been repeated elsewhere. There is ample evidence for Chabad’s bad behavior.

  4. Rabbi Zilber

    I think if you want to criticise you must know the facts. Rabbi Shalom Dov Ber of Lubavitch met with Rabbi Yakov Landa, soon to become Chief Rabbi of Bnei Brak. He discussed at length the many issues of Mikvah, and determined together that when you have a mikvah with the Bor on bottom and not on top you are sure that the waters will never mix. The reason for this is that the water that is in the bor will always be cooler and the water that is added will always be warmer (unless very cold water is added to the mikvah) later sceintific studies proved this fact. If people feel this is an issue there is absolutely no reason that they can not add a side bor as well. To the best of my knowledge Rabbi Landa was one of the most respected Rabbonim in his time, that even Rabbi Shach confered with him on Halachic matters, and was seen many times participating in his simchas.

    Shame on you that all you try is to knock. its easy to hurt one hard to heal one.

    Besuros tovos

  5. Last time I checked, Elkana was NOT under the control of Bnai Brak. The fact is rov poskim do NOT hold like Chabad.

  6. Ariel Sokolovsky

    B”H
    Shmarya who are you kidding?
    You don’t care what is the majority rabbinic opinion just using it as an excuse to bash those you are against in this case Chabad.
    This can be clearly seen in other parts of your site where you use minority opinions to bash the majority opinions to prove your point.

  7. Ma. Rabbi

    The fact is that both type of Mikvahs are Kosher. No Lubavitcher posek pasels a proper standard Mikvah. Likewise, the greatest Poskim of this generation, both Rav Moshe and Rav Henkin have ruled that a Lubavitcher Mikvah, Bor Al Gabey Bor, is perfectly Kosher.
    The debate is which Mikvah is superior, or more Mehuder.There are many practical advantages in the Lubavitcher Mikvah.

  8. What did the Hazon Ish and Rav Schach hold? Rabbi Shmuel HaLevi Wosner?

    Ruling that a Chabad mikva is kosher is not the same thing as saying it is preferable. Again, rov poskim hold against Chabad in this.

  9. Ma. Rabbi

    The Chazon Ish of blessed memory did not have a problem with Bor Al Gabai Bor perse. He held that a Bor shel Zereah is better than Hashaka for ALL Mikvahs.Most Mikvahs in the US are built with Hashakah not Zereya.

  10. Neo-Conservaguy

    “The fact is that both type of Mikvahs are Kosher. No Lubavitcher posek pasels a proper standard Mikvah.”

    Really? So when Chabad moves into a town with an established mikveh, but insist on building their own, what is the message?

  11. Ma. Rabbi

    Reply to Consevaguy:
    Read my entire previous post, not just the first two lines.

  12. Kurenitzer

    In many US cities the local Mikve has both sorts of borim – al gabi and al zad. Rav Aren Soloveitchik of Chicago supported this sort of construction in cities that had a demand for a Chabad type Mikve.
    Lets not get carried away with a blind dislike for Lubavitch. Reb Yankev Landau was no cultist and was a superior halachist to most of the contemporary rabbis in Israel.
    The key thing in building a Mikve in habad style is a peaceful attitude by both sides.
    Otherwise the issue has a tendency to explode and end up in major machlokes.

  13. The Unlubab

    Kurenitzer, where the hell do you take that r’Landau was a ‘superior halachist’ to most contemorary rabbis in Israel from?Give some basis for that besides for your dad being from the same city.R’Landau was a feiner yid, don’t get carried away, he was not one of the foremost halachic authorities, neither is his son

  14. a non ee moose

    How many snags do you see davening at a lubavitch shul. How many lubavitchers do you see davening at a snag shul?

    Take your head out of your ass and realize that they’re both trash.

    “Chabad seeks to dictate halakha so that its rejected minority view is forced on the majority. This scenario repeats itself often. Why? Because Chabad theology is clear: We are right, everyone else is wrong. Majority rule in halakha or anything else is overridden by what can only be termed Chabad arrogance.”

  15. elqana

    “The rebbe said to construct one Mikvah according the NON chabad opinion so as to accomodate the NON Lubavitcher women living in Crown Heights.Lubavitch does not force anyone to use a Lubavitcher mikvah although it has many advantages over the standard one.”

    says ma. rabbi,
    and i say that’s wonderful! he sure demonstrated a keen sense of melodrama and a display of “apparent fairness”.
    i am curious what is the rebbe directing his minions in elqana to do these days?

  16. Elqana

    “Ruling that a Chabad mikva is kosher is not the same thing as saying it is preferable. Again, rov poskim hold against Chabad in this.”

    R’ Shmarya.
    actually, it is preferable to rule the Chabad miqves treif, mechashash darkei haemori. -:)

  17. bored soul

    To shmarya, being a bored soul myself .. it would seem to me that the publisher of this website and yourself are bored souls as well.. being that the way i found this website was to put in “chabad” and “bad” into googles search engine it would seem that the agenda is just to bad mouth chabad.. now, the fact that you guys have time to write such nonsense just shows you cant do any thing in the real world. get a job.

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