PETA Debates Rubashkin Flack Nathan Lewin – Lewin Plays Nazi Card

Bruce Friedrich of PETA debated Nathan Lewin, Rubashkin’s attorney, a couple of weeks ago at the West Side Institutional Synagogue in NYC. Lewin is a contemptible man. Don’t believe me? Listen. (You may have both parts playing at once. Simply stop part two and listen to part one. Then switch.)

The worst part of this is Lewin quotes "scientific evidence" that is 50 years old and that does not apply to the slaughter done at Rubashkin. Does Lewin know this? If he doesn’t, he’s a fool; if he does, he’s a liar. He also accuses the OU of cowardice and insists the animals getting up after shechita and trying to run away are unconscious and these are only reflex movements, something no scientist or veterinarian agrees with. What you see on this PETA videotape is kosher slaughter at its finest, Lewin says. He also tries to play the Nazi card. What a sick man.

Listen here or download below:

Download PETA_Lewin_Pt_1.mp3.

Download PETA_Lewin_Debate_Pt_2_1.mp3

UPDATE: If the above options are not working, try this link.

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Filed under Jewish Leadership, Kosher Business?, Kosher Meat Scandal, Price-Fixing, Rubashkin Worker Abuse

9 responses to “PETA Debates Rubashkin Flack Nathan Lewin – Lewin Plays Nazi Card

  1. Anonymous

    The audio doesn’t seem to be working.

    Is there a way I can download it?

  2. Nigritude Ultramarine

    For those who are having trouble with the audio, let me fill you in:

    PETA Guy makes a point.

    Lewin: That’s not fair. That’s against the rules of the debate (moderator overrules him)

    PETA Guy makes a point.

    Lewin: uh, uh, Nazis!

    PETA Guy makes a point.

    Lewin: The Holocaust!

  3. I put download links at the botom of the post. See if you can get the files that way.

  4. Nigritude Ultramarine

    I was able to download the files. I’m eight minutes into the second one.

    /Thanks for making these available

  5. Neo-Conservaguy

    When I try to download I get:

    “This user has exceeded their quota for public file downloads today. Try again later!”

  6. Neo-Conservaguy

    I got the first part downloaded. It’s painful to listen to the empty rhetoric of Lewin as well as his complete ignorance of large animal biology. The PETA guy did OK, but it would have been even better if they had an observant Jew speaking for them to avoid letting Lewin try to play the Nazi card.

    Conclusion: I’ll stick with Wise and Solomon’s kosher meat products – small volume processing and attention to detail (Grandin standing pens) makes for better kosher meat that I don’t have to wonder about whether or not any of the meat processed on any day is treif.

  7. D

    “I’ll stick with Wise and Solomon’s kosher meat products …(Grandin standing pens)…”

    Wise definitely does not use standing pens as the CHK requires “Shechitas Munachas” with the animal lying down.

  8. Anonymous

    I heard the lecture in person.

    Neither Lewin nor the PETA had any good arguments.

    I actually went hoping to hear some good discourse, but was dissapointed to simply hear some pre-school name calling.

  9. Neo-Conservaguy

    “Wise definitely does not use standing pens as the CHK requires “Shechitas Munachas” with the animal lying down.”

    Perhaps they lied to me when I spoke them and asked that specific question, but given the depth of the answers I would be surprised. They stated that Temple Grandin designed their pens and visited their facility in South Dakota and approved of the operation. They also stated that they process about 120 cattle a week over the course of two production days. They are overseen not only by the kashruth organization but also by an organic certifier and a 3rd organization as well that checks all of the operation.

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