Will Chabad Tefillin Stands and Aish Seminars Now Be Illegal?

The JPost reports:

The familiar sight of Chabadniks inviting youths to put on tefillin may suffer a serious setback if a bill proposed by Labor MK Ophir Paz-Pines in the Knesset on Monday becomes law. The bill would prevent adults from placing pressure on anyone under the age of 18 to increase or decrease their religious involvement.

According to Paz-Pines, too much pressure is placed on youths to alter their religious traditions. Pressing youths to observe or discard religious practices can "cause the break-up of a family and cause damage to minors," he said.

Menachem Brod, a spokesman for Chabad in Israel, said Paz-Pines’s bill was absurd, and was intended to undermine religious Jewish life.

"Are they telling me that if someone is lacking a 10th member for their minyan, and they go out on the street and find a 17-year-old boy, they can’t invite that bar-mitzvaed boy in to complete the minyan? This is evil," he said. "Why do we insist on treating teenagers as though they don’t have the ability to make decisions?"

Ephraim Shore, a director of Jerusalem’s Aish Hatorah Yeshiva, disagreed with Paz-Pines’s reasoning, saying: "There are so many reasons for schisms in the family… We have a heritage that has lasted over 3,000 years and we believe in teaching it to people. This heritage has not traditionally caused schism in the family."

Shore rejected the assertion that some teenagers might be brainwashed into adopting religious practices.

"If you teach a Jew the beauty of Shabbat and he lights candles on Friday night, that is his choice, not some brainwashing," he said. "It’s a free country. We have a popular Web site that 2 million people visit a month. Should we change it to an ‘adult only’ Web site just so that teens won’t be exposed to the dangerous material we post there about Jewish life and traditions?"…

So let me get this straight. The organization that promotes the Torah Codes and uses other deceptive recruitment tactics claims it does not put undue pressure on people – adults as well as teens – to adopt a haredi lifestyle? Please.

As for the bill, if the age were dropped to 16, I’d be more comfortable with it. As written, the bill protects haredim from those who oppose haredism and urge radical change – like me. That should give some solace to Rabbis Shore and Brod.

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8 responses to “Will Chabad Tefillin Stands and Aish Seminars Now Be Illegal?

  1. anon

    As someone who is a well respected member of the charedi camp I now dress the part but no longer believe in my poskim. I no longer believe that the rules are for the sake of . . but rather to keep us as a cult. Can’t leave because of my family and social situation but I know I can’t be alone. Can’t have the internet at home but as I don’t work for B and H I have internet at work

  2. Aharon Varady

    “Why do we insist on treating teenagers as though they don’t have the ability to make decisions?” Exactly. Let Jews make their own decisions without coercion. What is the point in a minyan anyways, when there is no kavanah (intention) within and between the members of the tzibbur (congregation)?

  3. This is simply interesting. It does as YidChat points out slice both ways. But the difference is one can use a remote control to change the TV but you can’t mute a Yeshiva Bocker or change the turn off a Chabadnic.

    This legislation is designed to motivate the base of the constituencies. Nothing will come of it. And if it does, no one will enforce it. There are more important things to do in Israel.

  4. Does this mean that NaNachers won’t be able to invite people dance with them? -Typical of the secular authoritarians trying to crack down on spiritual partying.

    Will a TV show be censored if it makes fun of the Kaporos ceremony? -Kaporos IS funny. Hello? People swinging chickens over their heads? Come on, you have got to be one stick-up-the-ass fuck to not laugh your ass off at the very notion.

    As an ultra-ultra-libertarian (AKA anarchist), I oppose any type of legislation; despite my fervent wish to see an end to all Chabad proselytizing.

  5. B”H
    I highly douubt this has any chance of becoming law in Israel, but if it will G-d forbid become law we will eventually have another Hanukah rebellion and the blue and white flag of the Zionist State will probably end up being replaced with the yellow Moshiach flag…

  6. Sara

    This is such a dumb law and from the way it was described it is not clear enough to what is allowed and what is not. Are they going to make the Lubavitchers/Aish people start checking for ID to see how old the kid is? And how do they define someone who is trying to push the person in the other direction? Will Chabad houses have to start denying entry to anybody under 18 who wants to come and daven for a Shabbos? I can’t see this bill being passed any time soon. It just doesnt make any sense.

  7. YaYa

    Sokolovsky dont kid yourself, the next Chanuka will be to rid the nation of Israel of anything that smacks of blackhatism. That means you and all the other Eastern European throwbacks. You will be as relevant as the Essenes and Sadducees after the second churban. The Sanhedrin will be reestablished and believe it when I tell you that all the superstition and superflous minhagim that passes as Torat Moshe will end in the garbage can like it should. Deep down you guys still believe that even with a Sanhedrin you will go around telling people what is halacah according to you and how Torah should be practiced or taught, well guess what? You all will be out of Jobs, we will again be able to go to the Cohen Levi or Shofet and not some Your opinions will mean drek. There will be no more of this every Rabbi runs things his way in his shul. You will all learn that your bogus pseudo, non Mosaic smichas are really just for show and that like it or not you will tow the line to the psak of the Sandhedrin. Your days as king of the hill are over. Welcome to obsolesence.

  8. YaYa

    Sokolovsky dont kid yourself, the next Chanuka will be to rid the nation of Israel of anything that smacks of blackhatism. That means you and all the other Eastern European throwbacks. You will be as relevant as the Essenes and Sadducees after the second churban. The Sanhedrin will be reestablished and believe it when I tell you that all the superstition and superflous minhagim that passes as Torat Moshe will end in the garbage can like it should. Deep down you guys still believe that even with a Sanhedrin you will go around telling people what is halacah according to you and how Torah should be practiced or taught, well guess what? You all will be out of Jobs, we will again be able to go to the Cohen Levi or Shofet and not some Your opinions will mean drek. There will be no more of this every Rabbi runs things his way in his shul. You will all learn that your bogus pseudo, non Mosaic smichas are really just for show and that like it or not you will tow the line to the psak of the Sandhedrin. Your days as king of the hill are over. Welcome to obsolesence.

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