Former Haredi Comfronts His Haredi Molestors – On Camera

Breaking Silence
(Translated from Hebrew to English)
Ma’ariv Dec,
http://www.nrg.co.il/online/11/ART1/523/767.html

As a Charedi (ultra-orthodox) child he had been through a series of
molestations and attempted rapes. Even after he left the religious
life, he suffered from nightmares and sleepless nights. Now Menachem
Lang decided to gather his courage, confront his attackers, and force
the Charedi world to deal with its demons. Dressed as a Charedi, he
infiltrated Bnei-Brak and followed them–until he managed to squeeze a
detailed admission and request for forgiveness; all in front of the cameras.

Menachem Lang was born as a Charedi in Bnei-Brak. Already at a young
age he was discovered as someone who possessed a unique voice for
Chazanut (leading the community in religious song)and became the wonder
child of the Charedi world. However, alongside the success, Lang was
hiding a relentless dark secret.

"The first time was when I was 7 years old," tells Lang. "The
attacker took me to the bathroom and spent five hours with me there. He
rubbed against me and touched me, breathed like a drunkard. I just
lowered my eyes and waited for it to be over." This week, almost 20
years later, Lang went back to the streets of Bnei-Brak–and this time
as a non-religious Jew dressed as a Charedi–in order to confront the
people who sexually assaulted him.

Menachem, 25 years old, is an actor in the Ensemble of Herzelia
Theater, went on the shuddering trip into his past accompanied by
Channel 10 reporter Guy Lerer. "I always wanted to do this," he says,
"it hurt me that these people are walking free. It haunted me nights,
but I didn’t have the courage to do this because I didn’t have anyone
to do it with. I made the decision when Lerer came to me to prepare a
report on the show I participate in. I told him about my dream and he
immediately told me ‘we’re doing this!’. During the shooting we walked
into the Satmar borough dressed as Charedis, the same Chassidic group
that sent its people to meet with Ahmad Nigahd. It is a hard, violent
place."

"I am regretful!"
About two weeks ago, Landg and Lerer, outfitted
with a hidden camera, arrived in a neighborhood in Bnei-Brak. He waited
under one of the houses, dressed as a Charedi. A few minutes later, a
familiar figure approaches up the street. Menachem identifys "A", the
man who attacked him violently and molested him when he was 13. He goes
to him and calls him to stop. "A" turns and flees, Menachem runs after
him. Several tens of meters later, he catches him, and the two begin to
fight. When "A" understands that he has no place to run to, he stops,
and after he calms down a bit an exchange develops between Menachem and
him.

A: "I admit that I used to mess (with children) but three years already I hadn’t messed with any one."
Menachem: "How old are you today?"
A: "I’m 37."
Menachem: "Until the time you were 34 you touched children?"
A: "I did to you what I did to you in the Synagogue. Since I did to you I hadn’t touched anyone."
Menachem: "Why did you do (this)?"
A: "Folly. Everyone has a Yetzer-Ha’ra (an urge to do bad).
Menachem: "With how many children have you done this?"
A:
"I didn’t do a lot (of times/of kids), I did with two-three, not more
than that. I repented and I don’t do it and don’t touch anyone."
Menachem: "You know why I don’t believe you? Because I can see in your face that you are not sorry."

 

This is the moment when "A" loses his cool and yells in the middle
of the street: "I am regretful! You want to murder my life?" At this
point a large crowd gathers in the street. Menachem and the filming
crew, afraid of being Lynched, leave the place. Later on, Menachem
confronts another attacker, who offers to compensate for the
molestation with payment, as is customary in the Charedi world.
Menachem, surprisingly enough, accepts the offer.

That very day Menachem receives a threatening phone call from the
Bnei-Brak Modesty Patrols. "I head people talking about it and they
decided to go to the end," whispers the voice on the other end of the
line, "if this stops, it’ll stop. If this happens again, there will be
a battle against battle here. You want this? Be our guest."

"Entering Satmar was when I felt that we might be crossing a line,"
tell Lerer, "there were factors in the Charedi world who told us that
even they would be afraid to go in there. We were dressed as Charedis,
but you can say that the costume wasn’t all that credible. If they were
to expose us, we wouldn’t have left there alive."

"It is common in the Charedi world"
Five years ago Menachem left
religious life. Now it is much easier for him to talk of the atrocities
that he underwent in Bnei-Brak, this that repeated themselves over
years, by the hands of a number of people.

"The second time it happened to me, at age 10, a man I didn’t know
tempted me and got me into a stairwell," he reconstructs the event,
"there he undid my pants, touched me, and tried to enter me with his
penis. I will not forget that in the midst of all this he was talking
Gemara with me, probably to distract me while he was doing what he was
doing. It was terrible. I told about it to an older and qualified man.
He caught the attacker and took him to a very known rabbi, who takes
care of such matters. Unfortunately, I saw him (the attacker) walking
free the very next day. I found out that he was the son of a very known
‘Admor’ (congregation leader rabbi), which meant that nothing could be
done to him."

According to Menachem, sexual assault of children isn’t a rare thing
in the Charedi world, and many cases are silenced within the community.
It was the reason why he didn’t tell anyone about other events that
took place over the years. "I’m not alone," He says, "assaulting
children is a common thing in the Charedi world, almost accepted.
Everyone knows, but they try to take care of it internally. To go to
the police? It is out of the question."

Since the brave journey back to the world that abused him, Menachem
has been exposed to tens of additional phone threats. "Bnei-Brak is on
fire," he says, "They feel that this is one of the hardest things that
ever hit them. I’d already heard about organized plans to come and
exact revenge upon me, but I’d also heard about those who support me.
They say that no one ever stopped it from within. It is about time that
someone brings an end to this from outside."

Even though he has filmed admissions from his attackers, Menachem
decided not to place a complaint with the police. He doesn’t deny that
one of those reasons is the many threats he receives. "If a complaint
is made with the police, I will need to leave the country (Israel) the
next day," Menachem explains. "It is not something I want to do.
Anyway, I think that the report will do far better service and maybe
will result in tens of poor children not having to go through the same
hell as I did."

The full story, Friday, on "Shee-Shee" with Raviv Droker and Ofer Shelach on Channel 10.

[Hat Tip for link: JWB, who notes this is another piece of evidence that proves Marvin Schick wrong. Translation done by Awareness Center Newsgroup volunteers.]

UPDATE: The video can be seen here

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45 responses to “Former Haredi Comfronts His Haredi Molestors – On Camera

  1. yisroel

    shmarya,

    i wish you and all the other bloggers lots of luck for bringing this issue to the fore.

    However, i finally realize that the charedi leadership is inherently evil for not tackling this issue. They should either tackle the issue or admit that they are impotent and can’t do anything.

    Rabbi Wiilig from the ou had no problem saying that they were sorry and said that things were going to change.

    Daas Torah is one big joke. The agudah and the charedi leadership in israel is going to get a major kick in their behind that they won’t know what hit them.

    Not only will many people leave the charedi lifestyle but they will also find a way to punish the people (and leaders) that hurt them.

  2. yisroel

    shmarya,

    i wish you and all the other bloggers lots of luck for bringing this issue to the fore.

    However, i finally realize that the charedi leadership is inherently evil for not tackling this issue. They should either tackle the issue or admit that they are impotent and can’t do anything.

    Rabbi Willig from the ou had no problem saying that they were sorry and said that things were going to change.

    Daas Torah is one big joke. The agudah in america and the charedi leadership in israel is going to get a major kick in their behinds that they won’t know what hit them.

    Not only will many people leave the charedi lifestyle but they will also find a way to punish the people (and leaders) that hurt them.

  3. Finally!!! You and UOJ be proud of yourselves for everything you did to embolden people to come out in the open with this sickness that also infested the charedi community. The rabbis are animals for not stepping forward and dealing with this issue with the aid of mental health professionals. I have all the respect for you.

  4. Scam Alert

    he is an actor and he puts some shmutz together to make a name for his lousy self and scottyboy and the rets of the losers eat it lock stock and barrel. you should hange with saddam but id rather you live to see kolko aquitted and out there suing you to your last welfare dime loser.

  5. Neo-Conservaguy

    Are the other guys in the video actors as well? Get real.

  6. During the shooting we walked into the Satmar borough dressed as Charedis, the same Chassidic group that sent its people to meet with Ahmad Nigahd. It is a hard, violent place.

    If he doesn’t know how to differentiate between Satmar and 6 NK wackos, that doesn’t say much for his credibility.

  7. an ex chasid

    NK wackos are mostly Satmar. Satmar has never banned the group or put them into cherem.

  8. an ex chasid

    I guess you don’t know any. I do know of a FEW misnagid litvish that were NK but in the last ten years they have quietly dropped out. If you were at the Israel day parade in NY you would have seen the NKers, all dressed as Yerushalmis or Satmar standing there protesting. Not a misnagid among them.

    What is your agenda Mr. or Ms. interesting?

    Not to say some of our Litvish are nuts but this group is now known as idiot chassidim with too much . . . ahavas yisroel.

    Good luck to you Ms. Interesting.

  9. Agenda?

    Well, it’s true, I wasn’t at the parade in NY, but I have had the honor of spitting at YD Weiss in Washington, so I suppose that counts.

    The point was simply that the “former haredi” quoted above may be telling the truth about the abuse, but getting other details wrong certainly does nothing for his credibility.

  10. NK is overwhelmingly made up of Satmar rejects, and they cite the ist Satmar Rebbe, Yoel Titelbaum, as the authority for their actions.

  11. Note that the articel Interesting cites says Satmar took “UNPRECIDENTED” action. And this was two weeks ago, and they did this only after getting extreme heat from pretty much everyone. A Satmar dyan was on Zev Brenner talking about this and was trapped by a caller into agreeing with everything NK does – except meet with murders and madmen like Iran’s president.

    In other words, Satmar and NK are the same except that Satmar won’t (publicly, at least) give aid and comfort to enemies of the Jewish people.

  12. I’m not convinced this is “unprecedented”. Similar action has been taken with the Lev Tahor (Shlomo Helbrans’ cult)offshoot which is similar and affiliated with Neturei Karta in anti-Israel activities.

    I would note that among those fooled by Shlomo Helbrans’ cult was intellectual and moral pygmy Marvin Schick who apparently will defend anything that has the outward appearance of Orthodoxy before making even the most basic inquiries:
    Vantage Point: Injustice For Shlomo Helbrans
    by Marvin Schick
    New York Jewish Week
    December 22, 1994
    reproduced at: http://jewishwhistleblower.blogspot.com/2004/12/rabbi-shlomo-erez-elbarnes-aka-rabbi.html

    Here’s the Kol Koreh (note #7 which is in fact alluding to the cult’s “right of first night” custom):
    http://www.israel613.com/books/ ELBRANDS_DAAT_TZVI_CHADASH-E.pdf

    VAAD HOASKONIM Wiliamsburg, Boro-Park, Monsey and Queens.

    DAAS TORAH – TORAH PRONOUNCEMENT

    Our fellow-Jews cry out to us, giving us deep cause for concern:

    The reports are about a certain Shlomo Helbrantz, born in Kibbutz Hulta, Israel, of non-religious Sefardic parents (his father’s family is of Kurdish descent and his mother’s of Greek descent).

    Helbrantz became Torah observant on his own. In recent years, he has started conducting himself like a Chassidic Rebbe, establishing a congregation named “Lev Tahor” with about twenty people under his influence. For about ten years, he has been snatching souls from their parents’ homes to become his followers (thereby also amassing
    considerable wealth). By various ruses, he has torn tens of young people away from their parents, and stopped all personal contact between them, even by phone. He then finds them marriage partners without their parents’ knowing anything until after the wedding.

    It is difficult to imagine, and even more to describe in words, the anguish and river of tears that these broken-hearted parents shed for their children snatched from them so heartlessly to satisfy this man’s whims. He insists that his followers be under his sole influence and no
    other, even that of their own parents, who are denied their right to express any opinion about their children’s marital future or even to participate in their wedding – something for which every parent prays for so many years.

    Even after his followers get married, many have to separate again and again because their wives cannot endure the unbearable conditions set by Helbrantz. For example, the fact that the young husband is rarely at home, by day or night, during the first year of marriage, causes deep distress, while other details cannot even be mentioned here to avoid further Chillul Hashem.

    Coming under his influence even temporarily often leads to
    marital dissension, broken homes, and even divorce. Fortunately, dozens of couples have opened their eyes just in time and refused to follow his orders to get divorced.

    As a result of the continuing rumors and unbearable situation of tens of families in constant distress for the past ten years, weeping and making others weep for their children so heartlessly torn from them, several prominent Rabbis in Monsey, New York, have gathered to hear first-hand testimony from witnesses who have been in
    Helbrantz’s group. Dozens of other potential witnesses, here and in Israel, have not yet had a chance to give their testimony.

    Emerging from their testimony are the following facts:

    1. Helbrantz tears children from their parents in the most heartless manner. Even when he does not manage to hold onto them, he brainwashes them with a deep, implacable hatred for their parents, prompting them to run away from home.

    2. With great hypnotic power, he influences followers to become hardhearted towards their parents, showing no pity even when they see them weeping bitterly in deep distress, their hearts torn to shreds. Helbrantz tells his followers that this is the greatest way to “mend” their souls, for which they will merit reward both in this world and the next, whereas if they trangress his words they will be banished from both worlds…

    3. Unlike all other Jewish spiritual leaders, he imposes authority on his followers with great terror. They and their wives and children must be subordinated to him in every detail of their lives – like the cults…

    4. In Helbrantz’s group, falsehood reigns supreme. He lies and teaches his followers to lie, telling them that it is permitted, without any pangs of conscience, for the sake of their doctrines.

    5. In order to “mend” his followers’ souls, he gives strange
    directives, accompanied by insensitivity towards their wives that can often be even life-threatening. If a wife does not accept, he orders the husband to divorce her. He indoctrinates his followers to act heartlessly, even if it means imperiling the life of their parents or anyone else if it seems necessary for their group.

    6. He arouses dissension and disturbs marital harmony, breaking many homes by divorce, and forcing many engagements to be broken.

    7. For hours, often for whole nights until dawn, he speaks face to face with women on intimate subjects which – except in most rare cases – are utterly forbidden by the Torah as obscene talk.

    8. To attain total control over his followers, he tells them that all other Rebbes and Rabbis of our time derive from forces of evil, and their followers will be banished from both worlds and not be privileged to greet Moshiach. Only he has the power to “mend” his followers’ souls so that they may merit reward in both worlds.

    9. Sometimes he accustoms his followers to act contrary to the Shulchan Oruch (code of Torah law), for example, not to wash “Negel Vasser” upon awaking in the morning, contempt for Torah scholars, violence and informing on other Jews, several couples living in the same apartment etc.

    10. He often tells his followers to swear oaths by the Torah,
    holding a holy object, for minor matters such as agreeing not to repeat outside any strange things they have seen him do. On occasion he himself swears publicly, holding a Sefer Torah scroll.

    11. He pretends to be the greatest saint of our generation, a self-mortifying ascetic denying himself all worldly pleasures (as his followers have publicized in their flyers), and demanding life-threatening self-mortifications from his followers, too, while in fact he is fully immersed in the pleasures of this world.

    12. Raising millions of dollars all over the world, often virtually forcing Torah students and scholars to part with their meager resources, Helbrantz then uses the money for his own purposes. He acquires gold and silver ornaments more than the wealthiest millionaires, and real estate both in Israel and here. Only part of these funds are used for housing, feeding and clothing his followers ensnared from their parents’ homes.

    13. To accomplish his goals, he is not above informing on fellow Jews and publicly disgracing Torah scholars (thereby becoming a total heretic – Apikoros – as the Talmud states in Sanhedrin), even encouraging life-threatening violence towards others.

    14. He heaps curses upon whoever opposes his path, especially those he suspects might reveal his secrets or have already done so. His “war” against Zionism is a veil to cover his whims and lowly deeds.

    15. He purports to have visions of Eliyohu Hanovi, Rabbi Shimon bar Yochai, Rabbi Elimelech of Lizhensk and other renowned saints.

    16. He claims to be a victim, when in fact it is he who persecutes and heaps scorn on whoever disagrees with his false way. His piety is only in his words, but not in his private deeds. Nevertheless he purports to be the greatest saint of our time, hoping thereby to ensure his constant flow of funds.

    17. Studies at his “Yeshiva” are unlike normal Yeshivos.
    Elsewhere, students’ minds are developed by study of Gemara, Rashi and Tosfos, each at his level, together with less time spent on study of Shulchan Oruch and Mussar or Chassidus. At Congregation Lev Tahor, however, regardless of level, all study together in one room. The “in-depth” lesson – not every day – is in a simple Gemara text
    such as tractate Brochos, with a little time spent on Shulchan Oruch. The rest of the day is spent studying Reishis Chochma (a mystical Mussar text), Chabad texts such Tanya, Shaar Hayichud V’hoemuna and Likkutei Torah, Breslov texts etc. – even to young teenagers who
    understand nothing. The entire study schedule is very short, with the rest of the day spent working on various tasks needed at Helbrantz’s home and, above all, on collecting money.

    Experience shows that when younger and older boys, married young men and grown adults, all study together in the same group, serious study is impossible and it can even be harmful in various ways. But Helbrantz deliberately wants to avoid developing his followers’ minds, so that they may never realize what a hell they live in…

    18. The general training there also differs radically from our traditional Jewish way. He encourages his followers to rebel against their parents, treating them disrespectfully and even causing them anguish. He trains them to have mean character traits and abandon all norms of conduct in every area, whether in eating, sleeping, mode of dress, human relations, marital relations (including mistreatment of their wives), and respect for Torah scholars and for their own teachers and Rabbis (except for him). Beatings are encouraged as a form of mortification, and all Rebbes, Rabbonim, Dayanim, Roshei Yeshiva and Torah leaders are disparaged.

    19. The source of the problem is that Helbrantz, even if he knows any Torah, has no Torah tradition behind him. His parents are anti-religious and his Torah studies have been meager.

    20. Many young people who have been under his influence claim that previously they were not bothered much by wrong thoughts. Only after listening to his long talks on these subjects have their instincts been aroused to boiling point, and they find it most difficult to control.

    21. Clearly he is not what he purports to be, as evidenced by the fact that whoever becomes close to him loses whatever he had: Diligent scholars stop learning and forget their Torah, sincerely religious people lose their fear of G-d, and those who had stable livelihood lose that, too.

    22. Helbrantz demands of his followers – man, woman, boy or girl – total subordination of will, mind, body, time and money. They become like robots, doing whatever he wants without thought or self-determination, although they lose their Torah knowledge, fear of G-d and virtuous qualities, besides their money, livelihood, health, children’s education, and their own and their wives’ standards of
    modesty (he insists on being told all details of their marital
    relationships…). This is the classic path of the cults, and whoever comes under his influence for a while gets benumbed intellectually and emotionally or loses his mind altogether.

    All the above has been substantiated by many witnesses who have experienced all this at first hand, and testified before the above prominent Rabbonim.

    Our clear Torah ruling is that Helbrantz’s group constitutes a great threat, spiritual and physical, to the Torah observant community in general, and to every individual in particular, and has no right to remain in existence.

    Accordingly, it is forbidden by the Torah to associate with him or his congregation or to have any connection with any organization of his, or to hear or read any words of Torah or accept any guidance from him or his followers. Whoever is with him must leave him totally, going to study elsewhere where Torah and fear of G-d are taught properly in the traditional manner as transmitted by our ancestors generation after generation. Whoever is capable of
    influencing his followers to leave him has the duty to do so.

    Even more so, parents should warn their children, and educators their students, not to step into Helbrantz’s or his followers’ buildings even for a short while, such as on Shabbos and Yom Tov, nor even to talk with his followers, for that is the way they entrap others in their net.

    Whoever is G-d-fearing and concerned about the holiness of our Jewish people and our family life should keep everyone, male or female, young or old, away from there, for whoever falls into his trap may never return, G-d forbid.

    It is necessary to tear away the man’s mask of false holiness and asceticism, removing him from any connection with education and guidance so that he dare not be involved in this any more, for he is a great threat for truly holy education.

    Of course, all this applies in general to all deviances from the traditional path of our ancestors.

    Dear Jewish brethren! Take heed of this aberration of modesty and family sanctity and disgrace of human values. Whoever is capable of protesting or saving even one individual from Helbrantz’s clutches has the sacred duty to try his hardest to do so and not stand by while his
    fellow Jew suffers such a fate. Whoever has the slightest fear of G-d and sensitivity for the exalted sanctity and purity of our people will surely do everything possible to rid our proud Jewish community of Monsey of this group.

    We can no longer remain silent as we witness this negation of holiness. Therefore we hereby decide that it is severely prohibited to support Congregation Lev Tahor with the slightest contribution or support of any kind, for this helps him to ensnare more Jewish souls and ruin their lives and those of their parents. It is forbidden to have any contact with him or assist him in any way, and certainly to be
    under the same roof as him. Whoever is already there must escape and return to his parents’ home.

    All funds he has accumulated have been stolen under false pretenses from both rich and poor and must be returned to their rightful owners (head-checks given to him should be cancelled). Those who know in which real estate properties he has invested his vast ill-gotten gains should inform the Rabbonim so that they may return them to the poor Torah students and wealthy donors who innocently donated money for Pidyon Shvuyim – not for soul-snatching.

    Rabbis and Torah leaders! You have the duty to battle for the honor of the Torah being besmirched by this hypocrite who has deceptively been esnaring souls for ten years and cheating Jews of their money. Have pity on these wretched souls snatched from their parents. Demonstrate by decisive deeds that the eternal Jewish spirit of our tradition still stirs among our Torah observant community.
    Heed these sincere words written in blood and tears.

    In the merit of our preservation of our sanctity, may we raise our children in the holy and pure ways of our Torah, to witness the redemption of the Jewish people and its rejoicing in the arrival of our righteous Moshiach, many it be speedily in our time, Amen!

    We sign the above in pain and with a deeply broken heart, looking forward to good news and consolation, in Kislev, 5758.

    Vaad Hoaskonim – Williamburg. Boro-Park, Monsey and Queens

  13. yisroel

    Did anyone listen to the dov hikind show last night? The show was dedicated to the issue of child molestation. He had a guest on whose name was “chaim” who was molested in a yeshiva. It sounded like it was from torah temmimah.

  14. Anonymous

    The Translation to this article came from The Awareness Center. The credit goes to The Awareness Center translation committee volunteers!.

  15. >The Translation to this article came from The Awareness
    >Center. The credit goes to The Awareness Center translation
    >committee volunteers!.

    That is correct. I noted it in the comments to the previous thread (where I posted the links and translation) and it appears when this post thread was made Shmarya missed that.

  16. Yos

    “he is an actor and he puts some shmutz together”

    So Haredi often confess to homosexual pedophilia to actors?

  17. ed

    >However, i finally realize that the charedi leadership is inherently evil for not tackling this issue.

    Yisroel, why don’t you just admit that you hate Charedim, period.

    >Rabbi Wiilig from the ou had no problem saying that they were sorry and said that things were going to change.

    Idiot, he covered it up for the longest time until he was cornered.

    >Daas Torah is one big joke. The agudah and the charedi leadership in israel is going to get a major kick in their behind that they won’t know what hit them.

    You sound like a 3 year old.

    >Not only will many people leave the charedi lifestyle but they will also find a way to punish the people (and leaders) that hurt them.

    Dream on.

  18. Folks, I need your help to document the career of a convicted pedophile rabbi so that we can put his photo and profile up on the Awareness Center webpage. I have worked for a year or two with the Awareness Center without successon this in getting the necessary documentation to put up his case. It is only as of the past day that we have obtained new but minimal documentation that confirms information provided by various sources over the years.

    Normally, I do my case research in entirety before posting names in a case, but in this case I have been able to get sufficient documentation of a 3 decade history of abuse from Ireland to England, multiple survivors who came forward, a conviction and a jail sentence and frankly it’s time we used the resources of the internet community to take people like this down publicly, to send a message to the sexual predators, their enablers, Agudath Israel, the Eds and Marvin Schicks of the world that everything they sweep or wish to sweep under the rug we will expose.

    This is the Case of Rabbi Anthony Dee former Rabbi of Portsmouth and Southsea Synagogue, England and formerly of Northern Ireland.

    There are multiple articles on him in the Jewish Chronicle and if anyone has access to them please post here or forward them to me or the Awareness Center.

    I am also looking for photos of him and any information as to his current whereabouts.

  19. ZG

    I have a question, you hear about this problem in Litvish communities, Chasidic community and even RZ communities but not in Chabbad. How come ?

  20. There have been problems in Chabad as well.

    Chabad has many ba’alei teshuva, and BTs often won’t stay quiet. They’ll go to the police if their child is molested. Chabad has less room to work with because of this.

    The problems we read about are rabbinic coverups of abuse and rabbinic ineptness in handling abuse cases. Chabad usually doesn’t get the chance to do this because of the BTs. That’s my take, anyway.

  21. Anonymous

    “3. Unlike all other Jewish spiritual leaders, he imposes authority on his followers with great terror. They and their wives and children must be subordinated to him in every detail of their lives – like the cults…”

    Ummm, how is this different from my neighborhood or any other one? They all rule by social terrorism.

    “>Not only will many people leave the charedi lifestyle but they will also find a way to punish the people (and leaders) that hurt them.

    Dream on.”

    Actually, many people are leaving – the attrition rate is much, much higher than they admit. People can’t take it anymore. Just about every family has some grown kid(s) that have walked away. The hypocricy is overwhelming and there’s no solution but to leave. Nothing will change. They’re far too heavily invested in their power and position to admit they were wrong about anything. Their world will continue to shrink until they are finally ineffective nobodies howling at the wind about their loss of power. And there will be much rejoicing.

  22. MO MAN

    Ed is the fraud busted by UOJ He is Chaim Tuvya Neuhoff the paid stooge working for Margolis.

  23. >I have a question, you hear about this problem in Litvish
    >communities, Chasidic community and even RZ
    >communities but not in Chabbad. How come ?

    It happens in ALL communities, ALL denominations.

    Chabad has had problems too.

    Off the top of my head there are these cases:
    http://www.theawarenesscenter.org/Segelstein_Michael.html
    http://www.theawarenesscenter.org/Carlebach_Shlomo.html
    http://www.theawarenesscenter.org/Worch_Hershy.html

    Although not chabad, this one ran a school used by the Lubavitch community:
    http://www.TheAwarenessCenter.org/Bryks_Ephraim.html

    And this one was executive director of a kashrut organization run by chabad:
    http://www.theawarenesscenter.org/Dolovich_Gary.html

    Although, I would note that I don’t believe Worch is affiliated with Chabad anymore and Carlebach was kicked out years before his death.

    There are more cases which I cannot name at the moment as either I can’t recall the names or they are not yet public.

  24. Also this case:

    http://www.TheAwarenessCenter.org/Yomtov_Mordechai.html

    I have to disagree with you Shmarya. I have heard of a number of cases, cover-ups, the abuser is beaten but the authorities are not called.

    BTs and particularly their children are vulnerable and isolated and are often targetted. Kiruv is an area with few controls and protections to keep the wrong people out. Chabad certainly has a history of misfit sluchim that had to be removed like Carlebach and Zalman Shlomi Schachter. There are also people like Rabbi Ohad Ezrahi that start in chabad move to Jewish renewal and then start their own “sex communes”.

  25. >>”3. Unlike all other Jewish spiritual leaders, he imposes
    >>authority on his followers with great terror. They and their
    >>wives and children must be subordinated to him in every
    >>detail of their lives – like the cults…”
    >
    >Ummm, how is this different from my neighborhood or any
    >other one? They all rule by social terrorism.

    1) Followers are whipped. They administer corporal punishment to those who go out of line.

    2) Shluchim are kept dirt poor and sent out to collect $$ for their rav.

    3) The rav has the “right of first night” with all woman getting married. She must spend the night before her wedding with their rav. When Kol Koreh discusses sex talks with women “whole nights until dawns” you can guess what the euphamism is for.

  26. Here’s the video Ed does not want you to see as Mr.Lang confronts his abuser:

    http://news.nana.co.il/Article/?ArticleID=419794

  27. Schneur

    I recall reading a hebrew autobiographical novel about 10 year ago where a young Hasid described how he was molested by a ritual scribe belonging to the Brizel family who run the league for Modesty in Jslm. It was a fascinating book.
    Helbrantz was endorsed a dn supported by the wealthy Satamr community in the US because he too wa silitantly anti-Zionist.
    It was only when he “kidnapped” the grandchildren of the late kashoeir rav Rav Refael Blum of bedford Hills that they turned on him and dealt with him as to who he really was.

  28. Case of Rabbi Yaakov Yitzhak Brizel
    http://www.theawarenesscenter.org/yaakovbrizel.html

    Citation for the book: Brizel, Chie. Shetikat ha-Haredim / Shiye Brizel. — Tel-Aviv : Yediot Aharonot ; Sifre Hemed, 1999. 220 p. ; 21 cm. Title on t.p. verso: Hasidims silence. (A possible English title is “Silence of the Ultra-Orthodox”. I don’t know if it was ever published in English).

    It’s unfortunate a copy of this out of print book is not online.

  29. …a Golem will always rise up against its creator and reveal everything.” — Chie Brizel, Shetikat ha-Haredim

  30. yisroel

    yos,

    How can i hate the charedi if i am one myself ? it’s the “gedolim”, the aguda and their smugness that i have an issue with.

    These are people that have no concept of “busha” – shame. The three attributes of a jew is baishonim, rachmoninm and gomlei chassadim (shamefulness , pity and doing chessed). 2 out of 3 is great if you are a major league baseball player (batting .667) but to be a jew (and especially a godol) you have to bat one thousand.

    Yehuda the son of yakov ovinu in regards to the incident with tamar had no problem announcing in public “tzdoka mimene” – she is more righteous then me.

  31. ed

    You Yisroel, is the one who has no busha. The Chutzpa you have, to refer to Gedolim who have spent the majority of their lives steeped in Torah and Tzorchei Tzibbur as “inherently evil”. Go take a good look at what the Gemara says on those that say “Mai Ahani Lon Rabbonon”, and on Hamvazeh Talmid Chochom…..

  32. It’s fortunate that David Hamelech had a Natan HaNavi and not an Ed.

    In the generation of the Shabtai Tzvi when many, many rabbonim chose the to follow this false messiah and sexual deviant, Ed would have written to their critics:

    “The Chutzpa you have, to refer to Gedolim who have spent the majority of their lives steeped in Torah and Tzorchei Tzibbur as “inherently evil”. Go take a good look at what the Gemara says on those that say “Mai Ahani Lon Rabbonon”, and on Hamvazeh Talmid Chochom…..”

    Ed, there is not one of us here that do not want the rabbonim and leadership of our community to step up to the plate and do their job, to protect the vulnerable of our community and stand for kavod hatorah. We literally cry when we see our Torah degraded by a leadership that protected a child molester like Joel Kolko while sacrificing the neshamot of countless Jewish children. We cry when we see the number of agunot. We cry when we see the poverty of our fellow jew.

    The chutzpa YOU have to spit in the faces of the courageous children and young men and women who have come forward to tell their stories to try to protect the next generation.

    The chutzpa YOU have to attack your fellow jews here who have nothing but good intentions with their criticisms.

    What is wrong with you?

  33. ed

    >The chutzpa YOU have to attack your fellow jews here who have nothing but good intentions with their criticisms.

    “Good Intentions”.

    Hmmm…. Let’s see:

    Yisroel at 8:01:

    * However, i finally realize that the charedi leadership is inherently evil

    *Daas Torah is one big joke.

    *The agudah and the charedi leadership in israel is going to get a major kick in their behind

    *but they will also find a way to punish the people (and leaders) that hurt them.

    MO MAN at 8:18

    * The rabbis are animals…

    Good intentions, JWB?!?!?!?!?

  34. Yochanan Lavie

    Forgive my naivete, but I thought Judaism was about the worship of God, not of human beings. I thought it was God who was infallible, not human beings. I thought it was God who was omniscient, and free of sin. Where did I go wrong?

  35. ed

    >Forgive my naivete, but I thought Judaism was about the worship of God, not of human beings. I thought it was God who was infallible, not human beings…

    A rereading of Parshas Shoftim might do you good.

  36. ed

    >Forgive my naivete, but I thought Judaism was about the worship of God, not of human beings. I thought it was God who was infallible, not human beings…

    A rereading of Parshas Shoftim might do you good.

  37. ed

    >Forgive my naivete, but I thought Judaism was about the worship of God, not of human beings. I thought it was God who was infallible, not human beings…

    A rereading of Parshas Shoftim might do you good.

  38. ed

    Shmarya – sorry for repeats.

  39. yisroel

    ed,

    you’re right. i’m sorry. i would take the following radical steps if my 10 year old son ever came home and told me he was molested by his rebbe and then afterwards the prinicipal or rosh yeshiva slapped him in the face and threatened to kick him out of yeshiva if he still complains about it.

    I would sit him down and tell him that :

    1) the abuse never happened.

    2)if it did happen it was beacause he must have been a bad kid and he should immediately ask mechila from his rebbe and rosh yeshiva for causing them pain.

    3) if more wives and their daughters wore black bullet-proof tights and generally had more tznius the abuse wouldn’t have happened.

    4) tell him that the gemara says that if someone sees a talmid chacham do an aveira at night you have to believe that he already did teshuva by the next day.

    5) just because the shulchan aruch says that you shouldn’t touch your own aiver doesn’t mean that someone else can’t touch yours.

    6) he should be told in no uncertian terms that you don’t want this discussion to affect his participation in the Avos U’banim program.

    Ed, Thanks for helping me see the light !!

  40. Yochanan Lavie

    Ed, Thanks for helping me see the light !!

    Me too. I have never been to shul in my life, and I never heard of Parshat Shoftim. I now know that rabbis are infallible ex cathedra, and ex- everywhere else.

    I hereby surrender my willpower and judgement to the true masters of the universe!

  41. ed

    >Me too. I have never been to shul in my life, and I never heard of Parshat Shoftim.

    Before you comment on jewish affairs, it might be worthwhile to learn a thing or two about them.

  42. ed

    Yisroel, I called you earlier an idiot.

    Thanks for confirming it.

  43. Yochanan Lavie

    “Before you comment on jewish affairs, it might be worthwhile to learn a thing or two about them.”

    I know plenty. For example, I know that Moshe Rabbenu didn’t personally appoint today’s rabbis, like he appointed the shoftim and shotrim described in the parsha.
    I also know that the smicha described in the mishnah (with its supposedly unbroken chain to Sinai) no longer exists. Today’s smicha is just an academic degree in Yoreah Deah. Only YU (and maybe a few other places) gives pastoral training to go along with it. I also know that some rabbis in Israel want to revive traditional smicha. I also know that while many individual rabbis are fine people, there are also phonies, crooks, and creeps who hide behind their degrees. I also know how it feels to be personally betrayed by a “rabbi,” but I won’t bore you with the details.

    I am tired of a self-serving oligarchy using scriptural justification to rule over us without question. If you’re not, fine for you.

    Feel free to insult me personally, ’cause that’s how you try to silence those who disagree with you.

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