Settlers At Play, continued …

In an update to this post, Ha’aretz explains the trouble between Hebron settlers and the Arabs in cage:

Efrat Alkobi, whose cursing at Palestinians was documented on film and broadcast in the Israeli media on Wednesday, will be questioned by Sharmuta220_1
police at the Hebron police station on Thursday morning.

The police said that they decided to summon Alkobi for questioning following the release of the film to the press. They added that the problem of settlers abusing Palestinians in the Hebron area is a persistent one and is "well known" to the police. They said that the Abu Ayisha family, one of whom documented the incident, has been escorted by police on numerous occasions to protect them from abuse.…

In recent years the settlement "Adamot Yishai" was built near the Abu Ayisha family’s house, in the Tel Romeida neighborhood of Hebron. Many Palestinians abandoned their homes in the area following settlers’ violence against them. In order to cope with the daily rock-throwing, window breaking, and attacks, the Abu Ayisha family placed bars around their home. The family currently resides in a house that resembles a cage.

In the documented footage, which the B’Tselem organization received, a female settler comes close to the family’s house, and screams at 18-year-old Rajah Abu Ayisha "Get back in your cage." She continues to curse at her and calls her a prostitute in Arabic ("sharmuta") numerous times. The family maintains that this sort of incident is not out of the ordinary.…

Rajah said that the settlers throw rocks, water, and leftover food at them. "There are soldiers there who sometimes yell at the children to stop throwing rocks, but the children don’t listen to them. I was injured by the rocks more than once," she said.

Again, is this Judaism?

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18 responses to “Settlers At Play, continued …

  1. Look at the situation

    How many Israeli civilians have been intentionally killed by palestinians in the territories, compared with the number of palestinian civilians intentionally killed by israelis? If the palestinians would come out in huge numbers to protest these serial killing terrorists, it would be one thing. But instead they intentionally hide them and refuse to give them up (and shmarya complains about problems with mesirah in the Jewish community). At least those palestinians civilians aren’t targeted and murdered on a regular basis, and the israeli soldiers try to protect them instead of kidnapping or killing them. Israel has absorbed an astounding number of Jews from all over the world. If Moslems actually cared about the palestinians, they would absorb them and help improve their lives with their billions of dollars in oil. But they don’t. To quote Thomas Friedman’s article from the new york times “The Mideast: 15 rules to live by” “rule Rule 11: The most underestimated emotion in Arab politics is humiliation. The Israeli-Arab conflict, for instance, is not just about borders. Israel’s mere existence is a daily humiliation to Muslims, who can’t understand how, if they have the superior religion, Israel can be so powerful. Al Jazeera’s editor, Ahmed Sheikh, said it best when he recently told the Swiss weekly Die Weltwoche: “It gnaws at the people in the Middle East that such a small country as Israel, with only about seven million inhabitants, can defeat the Arab nation with its 350 million. That hurts our collective ego. The Palestinian problem is in the genes of every Arab. The West’s problem is that it does not understand this.” The majority of palestinians would gladly allow and/or participate in a holocaust against the jews in israel. Living under these conditions, how would you act?

  2. Again, is this Judaism?

    No, actually, the Judaism part is when we have fun drinking their blood and baking it into matzot.

  3. David M. Frost

    It’s certainly inappropriate behavior. No doubt, if the tables were turned, the behavior would be even worse, but that’s really no excuse.

    In the end, however, this is one example. We have no basis to conclude that this behavior is pervasive, nor is it fair to say that, because a Jew is acting like a schmuck, schmuck-like behavior is therefore Jewish.

  4. B”H
    Shalom Shmaryah!
    Shalom ya’ll!
    Of course I’m
    May be it’s not “halachik Judaism” (even though halachik sources can be quoted about this but you can argue they are minority opinions non normative etc. and it will not convince you nor many readers of this blog)
    However in that case you should also censor these things out of the Tanach Torah , Prophets and Writings on which the halachik Judaism is ultimatly based.
    for example how about this caseof settler like provocation gentiles living in the land of Yisrael and murder:
    18. And the men of the city said to him on the seventh day, before the sun set, “What is sweeter than honey and what is stronger than a lion?” And he said to them, “Had you not plowed with my heifer, you would not have found out my riddle.”
    before the sun set Before sunset, since they still had time until evening.
    plowed with my heifer This is allegorical (as Targum Jonathan renders): “Had you not interrogated my wife.”
    19. And there rested upon him a spirit of the Lord, and he went down to Ashkelon, and killed of them thirty men, and he took their clothing and gave the suits to those who had told the riddle; but his anger was kindled, and he went up to his father’s house.
    a spirit of the Lord A spirit of might emanating from God (Targum Jonathan). חֲלִיצוֹתָם I. e., the clothing that he removed (שֶחָלַץ has similar construction) from them.
    20. And Samson’s wife was (given) to his companion, who had accompanied him.
    לְמֵרֵעֵהוּ אֲשֶׁר רֵעָה לוֹ She was given to one of his companions.
    Shoftim – Chapter 15
    Hide Rashi’s Commentary
    1. And it was, after a few days, in the time of the wheat harvest, and Samson remembered his wife with a kid, and said, “I will come to my wife into the room.” But her father did not allow him to come in.
    2. And her father said, “I said that you had utterly hated her, and I gave her to your companion. Is not her younger sister better than she? Let her now be yours, instead of her.”
    3. And Samson said to them, “This time I shall be blameless from the Philistines, when I will do them harm.”
    This time I shall be blameless Justly will I harm them.
    4. And Samson went and caught three hundred foxes, and took torches, and turned tail to tail, and put one torch between (every) two tails in the middle.
    and turned The tails, tail to tail. וַיִּפֶן implies he himself turned. וַיַּפֶן implies he made others turn. And likewise is conjugated every word whose verb contains a “heh” (at the end which drops such as גלה רבה פנה) as in, (Ex. 1:20) הָעָם וַיִּרֶב (“And the people multiplied”), (Lamen. 2:5) יְהוּדָה וַיֶרֶב בְּבַת (“And He multiplied in Judah grief”), (II Kings 25:21) וַיִּגֶל יְהוּדָה מֵעַל אַדְמָתוֹ (“And Judah exited from his land”), (II Kings 17:6) וַיֶּגֶל אֶת ישְׂרָאֵל אַשּׁוּרָה (“And he exiled Israel to Ashur”) [as per Shem Ephraim].
    5. And he kindled fire on the torches and set them loose in the standing grain of the Philistines, and burnt up from the stacks to the standing grain and to the vineyards and olive trees.
    6. And the Philistines said, “Who has done this?” And they said, “Samson, the son-in-law of the Timnite, because he has taken his wife, and has given her to his companion.” And the Philistines went up and burnt her and her father with fire.
    the son-in-law of the Timnite The son-in-law of the Philistine who is in Timnah.
    7. And Samson said to them, “Are you accustomed to do like this? Then I have to be avenged from you and after that I shall cease.”
    Are you accustomed to do like this Perhaps you are accustomed to do such; to give the wife of one to another?
    8. And he struck them, the riders and the foot soldiers, with a great slaughter; and he went down and dwelt in the cleft of the rock of Etam.
    שוֹק עַל יָרֵך (Lit., leg on thigh) (Targum Jonathan renders) “riders and foot soldiers.” A horse rider is not supported by his thigh but rather by his leg, with one foot inserted into the metal (stirrup) which hangs from the saddle. בִּסְעִיף In the cleft (which is a crevice between the protrusions) of the rock of Etam, and similarly, (Isa. 2:21) וּבִסְעִיפֵי הַסְּלָעִים (“The protrusions of the rocks”), (Isa. 10: 33) מְסָעֵף פֻּארָה (“Will cut down its branches”).
    9. And the Philistines went up and encamped in Judah; and spread out in Lehi.
    in Lehi (lit., a jaw) This is the name of a place.
    10. And the men of Judah said, “Why have you come up against us?” And they said, “(To get you) to bind Samson we have come up; to do to him as he has done to us.”
    Why have you come up against us Are we not subservient to you?
    to bind Samson I.e., so that you should bind him and deliver him to us.
    11. And there went down three thousand men from Judah to the cleft of the rock of Etam, and they said to Samson, “Did you not know that the Philistines rule over us? Now what is this that you have done to us?” And he said to them, “As they did to me, so have I done to them.”
    12. And they said to him, “We have come down to bind you, to give you into the hand of the Philistines.” And Samson said to them, “Swear to me, lest you strike me yourselves.”
    13. And they spoke to him, saying, “No, however, we will bind you and give you into their hand, but we will not kill you.” And they bound him with two new ropes, and brought him up from the rock.
    No, however we will bind you I.e., We will not kill you, however, we will bind you.
    14. (As) he came up to Lehi, the Philistines shouted towards him: and there rested upon him a spirit of the Lord, and the ropes that were upon his arms became as flax that was burnt with fire, and his bonds melted off his hands.
    A spirit of the Lord A spirit of might emanating from God [quoting Targum Jonathan]. אֲסוּרָיו His bonds.
    15. And he found a moist jawbone of a donkey, and put forth his hand and took it, and killed with it a thousand men.
    טְרִיָּה Moist. I saw in a book of cures that the moisture which issues from a wound is called טְרִיָּה.
    16. And Samson said, “With the jawbone of a donkey I heaped them up; with the jawbone of a donkey I have killed a thousand men.”
    חֲמוֹר חֲמוֹרָתָיִם With the jawbone of a donkey I piled many piles, i.e., with the jawbone of a donkey I heaped them up [after Targum Jonathan].
    17. And it was, when he had finished speaking, that he threw the jawbone from his hand; and called that place Ramath-lehi.
    18. And he became very thirsty and called to the Lord and said, “You have given through the hand of Your servant this great deliverance; and now shall I die of thirst and fall into the hands of the uncircumcised?”
    19. And God cleaved the socket which was in the jawbone, and water came out of it, and he drank, and his spirit returned and he revived; therefore he called its name En-hakkore, which is in Lehi until this day.
    אֶת הַמַּכְתֵּש The socket within which the tooth rests, thich is shaped like a mortar (מַכְתֶּשֶׁת). עֵין הַקּוֹרֵא The fountain (מַעְיָן) that came about through the prayers of the one who called (הַקּוֹרֵא) to God.
    20. And he judged Israel in the days of the Philistines twenty years.

    With all my personal dislike for violence against anyone even Arabs who support terrorists I’d rather vote for “Samson” or Boruch Marzel than any of the morons currently running the government in the Land of Israel especially keeping in mind there was no terror attacks for like few months after Boruch Goldshtein prevented the pogrom in Hevron. There is a major conceptual and practical difference in dealing with Arabs even those who are originally “Palestinian” who are here in Minesota or Detroit for us as opposed to people living in Hevron having to deal with Arabs who directly support their destruction by either political or terrorist means.
    Arabs of Hevron who who are from same families of people who almost killed Montifioreh for his desire to visit Machpelah and those who did the 1929 pogrom and those who had the hutzpah to elect one of the participants of that pogrom as mayor of Hevron years already after the establishment of the state of Israel.
    Of course this is only possible because the Israeli government is influenced by American Jews like yourself who would rather allow thousands more Jews in Eretz Yisroel to die than for another “Samson” to come to power and create peace for 20 years or perhaps more…
    Rabbi Noah Smith
    “Texas Ranger”
    🙂

  5. B”H
    in my previous post words are missing I was meaning to say “Of course I’m just Rabbi Noah Smith “Texas Ranger” and ya’ll are big Modern Orthodox scholars here not to mention neo-Conservative apikorsim and other notables frequenting this blog, but here is my humble opinion.”

  6. Anonymous

    judiasm is throwing every last arab out of chevron with compensation. end of story. this lady and you scotty are cut from the same cloth.

  7. Garnel Ironheart

    Awwwww, did someone hurt the poor wittle Awab’s feelings? Is someone making fun of them? Imagine the nerve of those Jews, trying to return to their homes after being burned and slaughtered out of them in 1929. Imagine them thinking that they can return to their old domiciles and get them back when, clearly, the minute they left the whole city became completely “Palestinian” from time immemorial. There’s an old saying what goes here: “If the shoe fits, wear it!”

  8. Cambyse

    a man who signs “concubine” (pilegesh)?
    “I’m just Rabbi Noah Smith …..ya’ll are big Modern Orthodox scholars here”
    and the concubine, what are you?
    a qaraite?
    what are all these quotes you bring from shofteem?
    do we derive halakha from nevieem now? modern Ort? sure is better than those who want to return us to the stone age. ours is a rabbinic religion, not that of the shofteem.
    did you not notice that the rabbis have pasqen to follow their darkhei noam?
    didn’t the other side of your persona hear of rabbenu gereshon?
    and you have reflections on israeli leadership? lone ranger of “texas”- geronimo?
    and your obscene business of shadchan to the ignoble? besides, i think you can learn much torah and middot from conservatives, cochise!

  9. Ma Rabbi

    Shmarya,
    Please delete the disgusting comment about Jews drinking blood from that Arab, Jameel. You should read comments, before posting them.

  10. Jameel is Jewish. He has a Jblog. I believe he was being sarcastic.

  11. Isa

    Regarding the quote:
    “””” Boruch Goldstein prevented the progrom in Hebron””””
    Really! so he kills Moslems that are praying in a Jewish holy site!?!?
    Do they have guns or rocks in their hands?
    Do not misunderstand me an Arab with a gun or rock in their hand has forfeited their life.
    Boruch Goldstein went ‘postal’, couldn’t take the stress anymore and went on a suicide mission-did he expect to survive? How about even escape from Israeli law? He was married, might have even had kids and he just went ‘nuts’
    If you have the morality of taking a gun and blowing out the brains of an Arab with no outward signs of hostility, then you are no better than the Ukrainian concentration camp guards, who a survivor said “they were born bad”

  12. Neo-Conservaguy

    This behavior – caught on video in all of it’s disgusting horror – will cause MORE violence toward Jews and, God forbid, death. This plays directly into the claims made against Israelis by Palestinians; that woman just provided the “proof” of what should be specious claims. The only proof it provides me is that the settlers are nut cases; these are the people I’m supposed to feel pity for when they attack soldiers and police? Hardly!

  13. Anonymous

    Neo, it wont cause any more violence towards Jews. THe palestinians hate the Jews about as much as a human being can hate someone. This video and incident wont make the slightest difference. In fact, I personally think that this type of behavior will show the palestinians that not all the Jews are dovish cowards, so that at least some of them will think twice before trying to kidnap or kill a jew, for fear of more violence and reprisals.

  14. Neo-Conservaguy

    Absolute rubbish – you’re blinded by your hatred for Arabs. You don’t see how bad this video makes Jews look in the eyes of the entire world. This plays into every generally false claim laid at the feet of the Israeli – and the soldier just stood by and watched. How does name calling an Arab woman show anything but stupidity?

  15. Anonymous

    Those who support Israel will continue to support them, and those antisemites who hate israel, will continue to do so either way. This type of treatment has been well documented in the past, and both the arabs and the Jews in the territories harass each other whenever they get a chance to. Too bad if the world doesnt like it. Thats is an aspect of war. And you are in denial if you think Israel hasn’t been at war since its founding in 1948.

  16. Anonymous

    I find it difficult to fathom the mentality of those of you who defend this behaviour. It is utterly indefensible oppression and agression. The Hebron settlers are Hizbollah in kippot.

  17. formallyfrum

    “I find it difficult to fathom the mentality of those of you who defend this behaviour. It is utterly indefensible oppression and agression. The Hebron settlers are Hizbollah in kippot.”

    I agree I also would venture that the (many) settlers would say the Arabs are sub-human.

    And to those who say, what would the Arabs do? What does it have to do with this Arab family. Maybe there are nice, I do not know if they aren’t proof it.

    Jews hate to be stereotyped, but it seems many Jews have no problem stereotyping others. This is very sad.

    In addition, according to Halacha one cannot be punished for someone else’s deeds, so bringing up past evil deeds by Arabs is not a valid reason to punish this Arab family. And I thought settlers knew follow halacha, since their whole existence is based on “god gave us this land.”

    Bottom line many settlers are fanatics and fanatics are dangerous whether Jew or Arab.

  18. B”H
    “Who’s to blame?”? Ford Foundation & Betselem!!
    Further Complaint against Ford Foundation for causing Anti-Judaism and Anti-Israelism.
    Ford funds Betselem.
    ========================
    “…. for details about the antisemitic Betselem movie showing a Jewish resident of Hevron yelling at an hostile Arab neighbor, please click on: …”
    http://www.hebron.com/english/article.php?id=298

    Who’s to Blame? David Wilder
    January 12, 2007
    Over the past few days Israeli media and blogs around the world have been chewing, regurgitating, and chewing again, a short video, filmed in Hebron a few months ago. The video shows Hebron resident Yifat Alkobi yelling and cursing some of her Arab neighbors, the Abu Isha family, who live across the street from the Alokobis and the other 17 families who live in the Tel Rumeida neighborhood.
    Of course, for the Israeli media, this kind of film is similar to a big piece of chocolate cake with cream and a cherry on top. A live portrait of the ‘monsters of Hebron.’ Jewish monsters, of course.
    However, all those having a field day over the Yifat video have either forgotten, or never knew, or prefer to ignore a number of important facts:
    1. The Tel Rumeida neighborhood, the highest Jewish neighborhood in the city, perching atop a hill, faces, to the north, the Harat a-Shech Hills. These hills were abandoned by Israel to the Arabs exactly ten years ago a part of the infamous Hebron Accords. All Israeli security forces were removed from Harat a-Shech.
    When the Olso War (aka the 2nd intifada) began in October, 2000, on the eve of Rosh HaShana, Tel Rumeida came under attack from those hills. Terrorists shot from those hills into Tel Rumeida for two years. All the caravan homes, comprised of pasted-together plasterboard walls, were hit by Arab gunfire. The homes are all full of bullet holes. One Friday afternoon, when the Alkobi’s firstborn daughter Tziporah was playing outside, a terrorist lined her up in his rifle scope and fired. The bullet missed Tziporah’s head by a few centimeters.
    2. Just over eight years ago an Arab terrorist penetrated the Tel Rumeida neighborhood at about 11:00 PM, entered the home of Rabbi Shlomo Ra’anan from a back window, and stabbed to death the 63 year old Rabbi in his pajamas. The terrorist could not have perpetrated his attack without ‘inside information’ gleaned from, who else, Arab neighborhood residents.
    3. About a year and a half ago, following the expulsion of 10,000 Jews from Gush Katif and the northern Shomron, a group of radically extremist Arab organizations, headed by EU-funded ISM, and joined by groups like ‘anarchists against the wall,’ the Christian Peacekeeping Team, Ecumenical Escorters, and with tacit support from TIPH – Temporary International Presence in Hebron, decided to focus on Tel Rumeida, with the goal of wiping the Jewish presence their off the map.
    Of course, the ends justify the means: the group’s participants are ordered to physically intervene against Israeli security forces: ” The project will be activist-oriented. Unlike other organizations, the project work will not be “witness” or “presence” oriented… Assertively advocate for Palestinians of Tel Rumeida-Physically intervene when soldiers or settlers attack Palestinians. [ http://www.telrumeidaproject.org/Proposal.html ]

    These so-called activists, all foreigners, openly incite the Arabs against Israeli security forces and civilians. Their actions are overtly provocative, attempting to draw both Israeli adults, children and soldiers into violent situations, which they then selectively film, for use by media and internet. Of course, the films are professionally edited, so as to leave out segments which they clearly are not interested in being witnessed by the public-at-large. So too, with the “Alkobi video:” the events leading up to public version can be left up to your imagination.
    4. A true, short story, about the family in question, the Abu Isha clan, (which has been transformed by ISM et al into the Hebron media PA family of the neighborhood): A number of years ago one of the Jewish Tel Rumeida families had a broken piece of furniture. Their across-the-street neighbor, Mr. Abu-Isha, was a carpenter, and very naturally, they brought their broken chair to him to be fixed. When he completed the work and they asked the cost of the work he replied, “I don’t take money from neighbors.” It seemed that the days of the Messiah arrived; children from both families began playing together, Jewish and Arab children playing in Hebron.

    One day, as happens with children all over the world, the kids had a fight and this one went home crying and that one went home crying. A little while later the Jewish woman heard someone knocking at her door. When she opened it, one of the Abu-Isha clan stood their, and started screaming at her. (Did you see it on internet?) After a little while he turned around and went home. Shortly afterwards, a soldier stationed in the neighborhood approached the woman and asked her if she wanted to issue a complaint against the man who had screamed at her. She responded that she didn’t understand Arabic, and she had no idea what he had said. The soldier replied, “I understand Arabic – he said he was going to come back with a knife and kill all of you.” Needless to say, the kids stopped playing together.
    5. In conclusion, it is also important to try and keep events in proportion to their actual significance. For example, yesterday I read in Israeli internet news about a man who murdered someone because of an argument between….. two dogs. One dog bothered another dog in a coffee house in Haifa, and as a result a man was stabbed in the heart and killed. The murderer was convicted and sentenced to eighteen years in prison but appealed the harshness of the punishment. Israel’s illustrious Supreme Court accepted the appeal and reduced the sentence by three years, leaving the killer in jail for fifteen years. As Israeli punishment goes, I expect he’ll be out after ten.
    Did you know anything about this story? Which seems to be more significant: A Jewish woman yelling at an Arab woman, or a man who was convicted of killing another man because of a dog, and whose jail sentence was reduced due to its extreme severity?
    6. And finally, what really happened? What’s shown in the video? A woman yelling at another woman. Now, let me ask you, when was the last time you yelled at someone – a co-worker, a spouse, a child – hand on your heart. Did you ever have a dispute with a neighbor and ‘let go?’ Did it make international news headlines? On Israeli news – Kol Yisrael headline news, one of the features is that Yifat Alkobi from Hebron has been ordered by police to submit to interrogation. If she doesn’t appear an arrest warrant will be issued. This is headline news? Only because it’s an Arab and a Jew in Hebron. Yifat didn’t take a gun into their house and shoot anyone, she didn’t go inside and turn the house inside out – she yelled at an Arab women. Maybe her choice of words was ‘undesirable’ but believe me, I’ve heard worse. And great confessions: even at times I’ve lost it and used some pretty coarse language. I know a few righteous people who’ve never used such words, but not too many of them.
    Again, the difference is Jews and Arabs in Hebron, incitement, provocations, and a well-placed video camera. And of course, a firm target: let’s get the Jews out of Tel Rumeida.
    In reality, that’s the whole story. So you tell me, who’s to blame?

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