Idealogical Head Of Edah Haredit Passes Away, Group Now Seen As Rudderless

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The Jerusalem Post reports on the passing of what it terms the "mythological political leader" of the anti-Zionist Edah Haredit, Rabbi Yosef Scheinberger. To me, the most interesting bit of information is the yichus of Rabbi Scheinberger and therefore of his grandson, Yehuda Meshi-Zahav, the haredi street riot leader turned Zaka founder turned – haredi street riot leader:

Sheinberger’s family was directly related to the Sanz Hassidic dynasty.

Edah Haredit was built on anti-Zionism. All major anti-Zionist haredi leaders are hasidim. Neturei Karta’s theology is largely based on the works of three hasidic rebbes: Yoel Titlebaum of Satmar, the Munkatcher Rebbe known as the Minchat Elazar, and the fifth rebbe of Lubavitch, Sholom DovBer Schneersohn.

By contrast, the origins of Religious Zionism are largely Lithuanian. Even the hasidic founders of RZ were, for the most part, hasidim from the Belarus-Lithuania region. Examples of the latter would be Rav Kook and the lesser known but influential Smargoner Gaon.

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10 responses to “Idealogical Head Of Edah Haredit Passes Away, Group Now Seen As Rudderless

  1. DK

    I thought the founders of NK were Lithuanian! There was a whole feature article on this in Guilt And Pleasure.

  2. Neturei

    “Neturei Karta’s theology is large based on the works of three hasidic rebbes:”

    Feel free to ask anyone who knows about the history of Yerushalayim — the Neturei Karta was founded by misnagdim, some of them bitter enemies of chasidism. Katzenellenbogen, a kalter litvak, was one of the major figures. The rest of the crew were non-hasidic Hungarians.

    You are wrong — extremism has to do with Austro-Hungary/Germany not with chasidism. Have you ever heard of a poilisher kanoi?

  3. What is it about the word “theology” that you don’t understand? The leading anti-Zionists in the period just before and during the early years of NK were the Rebbe Rashab (th Lubavitcher Rebbe), the Rayyatz (6th Lubavitcher Rebbe) and the Munkatcher Rebbe and Yoel Teitlebaum of Satmar. NK draws heavily on their theology, speeches, etc. The theology of these four rebbes forms the core of NK theology.

  4. Schneur

    Firstly R. Scheinberger had been out of power in Jslm for many years now. Power was held by other leaders like Roth etc. The real power in the Eda rests in its kashruth agency which is in fact the Eda’s chief identity .It has become the OU of Israel as far as Kosher goes. Thsoe who run the Eda’s Kosher office run the Eda.
    The JP was probably fed nonsense about rabbi Sheinberger’s importance by his family.
    In fact in the alst 20 years he was in the US most of the year posing as a miracle worker holding court in Brooklyn and claiming powers with ads in the JEWISH PRESS
    The Eda was started by Misnagdim, by the Perushim of Jslm, who are of Hungarian , and Lithuanian origin. Reb A. Blau was not a Chasid,. Their real spiritual leaders were the Maharil Diskin, Rav Sonnenfeld and others not the Satmarer or Munkatcher. Only after WW2 did the Chassidim become critical in the Eda.Read Menachem Friedman’s scholarly work for a detailed accounting of this chapter in jewish history.

  5. Even Rabbi Sonnefeld used Munkatcher hasidut as a partial basis for his stand. There was tremendous reliance on that, and on the public support of the Rashab.

  6. Neturei

    What is it about the word “history” that you don’t understand? The founders of Neturei Karta had nothing to do with chasidism. You are confusing the Riaz Margulis with Neturei Karta. He was indeed a chasid (Munkatch), but he was by no means representative of Neturei Karta. The NK ideology and theology was crafted by Amram Blau and Katzenellenbogen.

  7. chief doofis

    EVERYONE KNOWS THAT THE SATMAR REBBE WAS THE SPIRITUAL LIGHT OF N.K. HIS SEFER AL HAGEULA V’AL HAT’MURAH ATTRIBUTES THE FOUNDING OF THE MEDINAH TO THE WORK, NOT OF G-D, BUT OF THE SITRA ACHARA. ANY OTHER JEW WHO WOULD SAY SOMETHING LIKE THAT, WOULD BE RUN OUT OF TOWN,NOT BECAUSE IT’S ANTI ZIONIST, BUT BECAUSE JUDAISM DOES NOT BELIEVE IN ANY FORCE OTHER THAN G-D. A “SITRA ACHARA” IS NOT A JEWISH CONCEPT AT ALL, BUT RATHER, A ZOROASTRIAN ONE!! (MORE PROPERLY, MANICHEAN)

    YOU SEE, THE JEWISH PEOPLE COEXISTED QUITE NICELY WITHIN THE BORDERS OF THE PARTHIAN AND SASSANID EMPIRES. MANY IDEAS CROSSED RELIGIOUS BORDERS. SEEMS WE PICKED UP MORE THAN PERSIAN RUGS FROM THEM. DRIVEL ABOUT SITRA ACHARA BELONGS WITH THE “FIRE WORSHIPPERS”, NOT WITH US!

  8. Anonymous

    Does the term “chassid” imply some connection with the Besht, even remote?

    What is Satmar’s connection to the Besht?

    Are they and their off shoots “true” chassidim?

  9. Yochanan Lavie

    What is Satmar’s connection to the Besht?

    Actually, they’re connected to the “Worsht.”
    (Sorry, I couldn’t resist…)

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