Settlers At Play Again …

This video was taken in Hebron. The voices are of international observers there to protect Palestinian families from out of control settlers like this.

We need to make a choice. Behavior like this cannot be tolerated; neither can the atmosphere that causes it. Settlers teach their children hatred. It is true this is in part a reaction to the Intifada, but it is noxious, nonetheless. It is destroying Israel from within, and making Judaism not much different than the long line of fascist ideologies that oppressed us. If this type of behavior is the price of keeping Hebron, we must give it up. No piece of land, no matter how holy, is worth this.

[Hat Tip: Neo-Conservaguy.]

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18 responses to “Settlers At Play Again …

  1. I must say I totally deplore the guy’s choice of words. “Nibul Peh” is something that anyone that has seriously learned Torah stays far away from.

    What’s missing from the video is context. What happened before the beginning of the clip? Who does the land in question really belong to?
    It could very well be that the Arabs and “international observers” are encroaching on this guy’s property or the property of someone else in the Jewish community.

    Did you ever notice that these “observers” never document or complain about Arab violence against Jews?

  2. jj

    I know this guy, he’s an out of control violent unstable kid who doesn’t even live in hevron (he lives in nachlaot in jerusalem). He doesn’t represent the settlers one bit. I find his language offensive and his rhetoric is disgusting considering the many Christian supporters of Yesha.

  3. Ben Qor'ha (Baldwin)

    As much as the settlers have a well deserved bad reputation for “rowdy behaviour”, british journalists have an equally deserved bad reputation for “staging and provoking antisemitic dramas”.
    That does not make the jewish hooligans behaviour any more acceptable.
    In fact from the first interview of R’ Moshe Levinger in Hebron, Jews have a rather serious image problem in that place.
    Ours, theirs at this stage is besides the point. 300~400 people among 150,000?
    Mind you it seems that all descendents of the Hebron jewish residents from the 1929 riots/pogroms are not running to return to their houses.
    We are there now 40 years, if all we can send is 300 abusive residents, why stress precious military resources?

    PS: jj says, I know this guy -being bad news- I don’t put it past the british journalists/observers of actually “recruiting” such idiots for staging such scenes.

  4. Anonymous

    quit crying about settelers swearing at goyim when the palastinians and cristians are responsible for killing jews on a daily basis. You sound as if you hate all religious jews why dont you just give up and join the goyim it sounds like you would be happier killing us than being part of us.

  5. Anonymous

    Unfortunately, when a person is put in a dangerous living situation, they must become extremely aggressive to survive. You try living among these “palestinians”, having your friends and family members attacked and murdered, and then we’ll see your attitude towards arabs and “international observers”

  6. Ben Qor'ha (Baldwin)

    You try living among these “palestinians”, having your friends and family members attacked and murdered, and then we’ll see your attitude towards arabs and “international observers”

    I haven’t tried, not trying and not about to try!

  7. Nigritude Ultramarine

    Very disturbing. I could not watch the entire video.

  8. Aharon Varady

    Ben Qor’ha, I read your comment and thought it pretty well reflected “palestinian” opinions towards us:

    You try living among these “settlers”, having your friends and family members attacked and murdered, and then we’ll see your attitude towards jews and their sympathisers.

  9. Anonymous

    Please, aharon, there is no comparison.

  10. Yos

    If living ‘there’ makes a Jew behave like that, then clearly he needs a change of scenery.

  11. Yos

    If living ‘there’ makes a Jew behave like that, then clearly he needs a change of scenery.

  12. Ben Qor'ha (Baldwin)

    Ben Qor’ha, I read your comment and thought it pretty well reflected “palestinian” opinions towards us:

    Well, I happen to be an israeli who served in the idf . What do you find pro palestinian in me?
    (Personally, I wish that we didn’t have to be anti palestinian, considering circumstances we are in a conflict, unfortunately, they are anti me!).
    We took over the place in 1967, 40 years ago. my impression is that if there are only 300 jews there now, swimming in trouble and causing trouble to the IDF. Is it worth their while?
    Consider the populations of Ariel (18,000), Katzrin (7,000), Maaleh Adumim (32,000), Alfei Menashe, Efrat 7,500 etc… I would say that Qiryat Arba is not a very successful venture. I know about the cave of Makhpela. I visited the place as a high school student in 68 and subsequently with our youth movement in 69 and during my military service, and since, every year, it is alive and well, in the pages of my chumash .
    I was a settler myself in the judean desert . So? I am now promoted from anti semitic palestinian to a self hating jew? are you israeli?
    My dear friend: tafasta merubbeh, lo tafasta (klum).

  13. jj

    Again as I said this violent little punk (whom I know very well) is nothing. Let’s not forget that there are many idealistic godfearing young Jewish families who want nothing more than to live peacefully in the city of their forefathers ; they should be supported. Yes they can resort to violence when it is needed and that is the only way to survive in a very tought neighborhood.

  14. Chalfon is back

    I thought you were gone.

  15. Anonymous

    Ya real good, look at the people who post comments there, yea a real reliable source.
    Rosenberg has no scruples, Anti Jewish or Zionist, White Power, Nazi, Jihadi hate sites are legitimate sources of info for him.
    Does this run in Rosenbergs family??? I would like to ask his parents whats wrong with their child but I doubt if they would admit any relationship to this nevela.

  16. xaganst

    TO;

    “quit crying about settelers swearing at goyim when the palastinians and cristians are responsible for killing jews on a daily basis. You sound as if you hate all religious jews why dont you just give up and join the goyim it sounds like you would be happier killing us than being part of us.”

    AND;

    “Ya real good, look at the people who post comments there, yea a real reliable source.
    Rosenberg has no scruples, Anti Jewish or Zionist, White Power, Nazi, Jihadi hate sites are legitimate sources of info for him.
    Does this run in Rosenbergs family??? I would like to ask his parents whats wrong with their child but I doubt if they would admit any relationship to this nevela.”

    I say;

    Not only are you filled with an essence of tremendous hate, which consequently makes you a rabid racist(s), you compound the negative aspects of your character by being an idiot(s) and a fool(s) as well.

    You seem to love hating a lot, by preferring to calling others in a dergatory manner, is this what you have been taught is the right and moral way you should comport yourselves in your community and the larger society.

    Hate harms the hated as well the hater, so it be wise to wise up for your own good, both you and your community will benefit.

  17. Ben Qor'ha (Baldwin)

    xaganst
    very well put. rabid racists is what they are.
    i am afraid however this is falling on deaf ears.
    this is not my people nor my faith.
    they have driven themselves out.
    and, the way those savages are, good riddance.

  18. Eric

    Many Israelis have argued that ever since 1967, we have become conquereres, (kibush in Hebrew), and although it’s not our choice, hakibush mashchit, the occuption corrupts us somehow. The way I see, the main stream Israeli line (if such a thing can be said), is that we don’t really want to be in the territories, but since we have no one to give the land to, there’s no reason we shouldn’t continue building up our homeland and try to find someone on the other side with whom to make peace. Rabbi Tzvi Yehuda Kook and the Lubavitcher Rebbe believe that any territoria concession is strictly forbidden, basing their view largely on mysticism. (It’s hard to find clear halachic prohibitions against giving land for peace.) I believe that equally legitimate is the religious argument of Yeshayhu Leibowitz and perhaps Meimad that being occupiers causes us to be corrupt and to violate the basic teachings of Judaism. I probably fall somewhere in the middle, but have been moving away from Kook and close to Leibowitz over the last few years.

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